![]() ![]() So now we've got a song that predates "Hello" by 15 years. And yup, there's that "Hello" melody buried at the end, starting around 10:20 (kicking in about a minute later.) But I can't find anything solid, especially about settlements and credit.īut with a lead from Wikipedia, I learn that Moore lost a suit brought by a German band from the 70s, Jud's Gallery. There's even a Fark link from 14 years ago saying Moore lost his case against Richie. Preliminary Google search says, yeah, it's definitely a rip-off. Love shit like this, wanted to know who it was.Īnd then the announcer backsold the song by saying "that was 'Still Got the Blues' by Gary Moore." I presume the DJ said that with a straight face.īut there was NO WAY that wasn't "Hello"! I heard this powerful instrumental guitar version of "Hello" by Lionel Ritchie on the AM station the other day. i mean, i know RH has the reputation of being "weird" but i am hoping i don't get to the mid-2010s part of the thread and find that he straight up murdered people, lol *grimace* I also have some other thoughts but i want to read the thread first. hard to explain, but it was just so excellent to hear his voice out of nowhere (along with Peter Buck's playing. it almost sounds like the the way he would sing a song on Up or Reveal or parts of New Adventures, I mean. I wondered if it was Mills for a minute, but then it was clearly Stipe, and it's interesting because the way he sings on that song, from 1991, seems like it prefigures a shift in how he would sing with REM in the mid-to-late 90s. i have to say, it was an absolute _delight_, earlier, to be listening to the Egyptians 1996 Greatest Hits comp, hearing many of the songs for the first time, especially toward the back half, and then hearing Michael Stipe on "She Doesn't Exist", and loving the song even before realizing it was him or believing it. i'm still working my way through the thread, and through much of the catalog as well. I have recently gotten a case of the Soft Boys and Robyn Hitchcock fever. ![]() (fun fact: this lady would later marry Adam Curry of one-time MTV fame - they were one of the big Dutch celebrity couples of the time) I’m only now realising that it probably also inspired the sound of a 1977 Dutch pop disco classic that I adore: (relevant to the Blondie angle: ”The record reached #1 in the Billboard Disco Singles, #2 in the Hot Dance Club Play and #43 in the Hot 100 charts in the U.S.”) It never registered with me att that “El Bimbo” was this big worldwide - apparently it missed the top 30/40 over here two years in a row - and I had no idea about its afterlife: Hearing it now seems more than likely that it was a conscious source of inspiration, without “Atomic” being in any way plagiaristic. (the Spanish emcee’ing is not part of the (original) recording) Ooh, it’s *that* track! remember it from the radio, think some deejay here used it as theme music for their show - and yes, you’re right, it does! Decker also noted that even though "Joyful Noise" is written in the key of A and "Dark Horse" is written in B-flat, that's only a difference of a half step. The phrases also have a similar timbre - or distinctive quality of sound - using synthesized sounds to create a "pingy," artificial sound in the beat, Decker explained.Įven the texture of the sound in the phrases, such as the number of instruments being used, is unusually "empty," Decker said, with both introducing their beats in isolation.ĭespite the phrases ending with two different notes, Decker said "Dark Horse" uses a similar dip down in pitch to end the ostinato. He eventually isolated an eight-note melodic phrase beginning with four C-notes and two B-notes that he said seemed to indicate some musical borrowing on the part of Perry's songwriters.ĭecker said the melody for both phrases sits on the same note for four beats before descending in pitch. What's really blowing my mind right now is that Chris and Tom Hooper from Grapes of Wrath (an actual brother band!) are rocking the exact same look as Gary Louris from the Jayhawks (a psuedo brother band).įor the curious, here is what an expert witness for the rap artists - musicologist Todd Decker - testified on Friday (as reported in Law 360):įor this suit, Decker said he listened to Gray's 2008 song "Joyful Noise" and Perry's 2013 song "Dark Horse" back to back "countless times" before plunking notes out on a piano to try to figure out any similar-sounding patterns between the two songs. But the Grapes of Wrath song sounds more similar, actually. Pray for Me came out three years before Fire Escape, Miles Zuniga from Fastball is a documented fan of the Jayhawks, etc etc. I thought that Fastball guitar riff came from here: ![]()
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